Comments on: Artisan bread baking tips: Poolish & biga https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/ The place for the ambitious home baker Wed, 03 Apr 2024 08:52:53 +0000 hourly 1 By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657911 Wed, 03 Apr 2024 08:52:53 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657911 In reply to Susan Smith.

Thank you Susan,
Baby steps is exactly the pace we would advice. And enjoying the journey of course.
And in case you have not spotted them yet, these are our other general baking tips :
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…king-tips/

Happy baking!

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By: Susan Smith https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657905 Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:47:31 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657905 Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. I am taking baby steps in my baking experience and appreciate the work that you’ve shared.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657823 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:40:24 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657823 In reply to Drew458.

As bakers, we do consider baking to be an exact science and as such we personally like the idea of measuring everything, even the tiny amounts. Using spoons means you can deviate up to 20% compared to using scales. If you want to be consistent in baking we have found we cannot do without our scales.

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By: Drew458 https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657820 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:27:26 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657820 In reply to Ric Whiting.

Interesting. A standard measure of yeast is 2.5tsp which is 7gm. So that’s 0.7gm per 1/4tsp, or 0.35 per 1/8tsp. A tsp of water is a gnat’s hair under 5gm, so 1/8tsp water weighs 0.625gm. 100 of these add up to 62.5gm. Fully dissolve your 1/8tsp in that and you get 0.028gm yeast per teaspoon. Do the math to get the fractional amount of yeast you want; 4tsp gets you 0.112gm, just over 1/10gm of yeast.
Do we really need that level of precision?

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657793 Mon, 29 Jan 2024 08:52:36 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657793 In reply to Lucian.

Hello Lucian,
Thank you very much. A good indication would be between 0.5 (18 hours) and 0.3 percent (24 hours).
You can also check out our table percentage that we use for pizza, that is also a good starting point for your poolish.
See: www.weekendbakery.com/posts…gh-recipe/
Hope it will turn out great and your summer will be enjoyable and not too hot.

Greetings from Holland

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By: Lucian https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657791 Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:19:46 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657791 Really great piece on poolish! For predictability’s sake I like to cold ferment the poolish in a fridge, our summers are hot and humid. What’s a good yeast percentage for cold fermenting 20-24 hours? Thank you.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657722 Mon, 04 Dec 2023 11:26:49 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657722 In reply to Ken Nelson.

Hello Ken,
Yes, you can take an amount of flour from the original recipe. A good start for you would be to take one cup of flour and make the poolish with that.
To be honest we are not so ‘good’ with cups because it is not exact, but if one cup of flour is about 125 grams we suggest the following:

So for example if you make a poolish and want to leave it for 12 hours:

1 cup /125 g (amount of flour)
0.1% (yeast amount used in summer for 12 hour poolish)
To calculate 1% of 125g of flour you divide 125 g by 100 and multiply by amount in the table above;
125 / 100 x 0.1 = 0.125 g instant yeast
(for fresh yeast multiply the amount by 3)
If it is cold we would double this amount.

The amount is very, very small, so if you cannot weigh it on a precision scale, you need to guess(timate) the amount like we show in the pictures above.
Use a 1/4 teaspoon for this – which needs to be filled for about 1/4.

Just give it a try and keep an eye on the poolish to make sure it does not over-ripe. Underdevelopment is usually not a problem, because you can correct this in the final dough by a longer proofing period or the use of a bit of extra yeast.

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By: Ken Nelson https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657718 Wed, 29 Nov 2023 12:48:01 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657718 I HAVE A BREAD RECIPE AND WANT TO USE A POOLISH. DO I USE THE FLOUR FROM THE ORIGINAL RECIPE TO MAKE MY POOLISH.

LETS SAY MY ORIGINAL RECIPE CALLS FOR 3 CUPS OF FLOUR HOW MUCH FLOUR DO I REMOVE FROM THE ORIGINAL 3 CUPS OF FLOUR. WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS I MIX WITH EQUAL AMOUNT OF WATER. TO THIS MIXTURE HOW MUCH YEAST DO I ADD?

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657707 Mon, 06 Nov 2023 10:59:35 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657707 In reply to Mohammadreza.

Yes, you can make a ‘straight’ dough with instant dry yeast, without first making a poolish or biga that is later used in the final dough. But this method of first making a preferment like a poolish or biga, delivers in general a much more interesting loaf with better taste and texture and which is also easier to digest.
A great recipe for a straight dough with instant dry yeast is this one:
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…wich-loaf/

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By: Mohammadreza https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657706 Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:14:05 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657706 Hi
can we use instant dried yeast instead of Poolish and biga?

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By: Adarsh Avuku https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657694 Thu, 19 Oct 2023 19:04:28 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657694 Hello there ,

I am trying to make poolish for 20 kg flour , how much amount of poolish I need and how much amount of yeast should I put . Help would be appreciated thank you so much

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By: JR https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657660 Mon, 24 Jul 2023 09:45:25 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657660 How fast would biga and or poolish ferment at 28-30C(my room temp)?

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By: John fahy https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657659 Fri, 21 Jul 2023 20:00:40 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657659 Might I suggest that, In order to accurately measure the small amounts of yeast. Mix a small amount of yeast that your scales can measure, say 3 g. With a known amount of measured flour I suggest 27g. Mix completely. When you are required to use .2 g of yeast. Measure 2g of the mixture. One part in 10 will be yeast. Store the rest in a sealed bottle in the fridge. Or throw, and start again next time if you do not think you will need to use the mixture again while it is still fresh.

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By: TOGO https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657630 Tue, 18 Apr 2023 10:38:32 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657630 DOUGH PROOFING STATION:
Place a large rectangular plastic (primary) container on a seed propagation mat. Next; -pour approximately 1-1/2″ deep (tap) hot water into the container. Finally; -place your dough in a secondary container, round or long bread pan, and place it into the primary container. You now have a temperature controlled environment for year round dough proofing

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By: Keri https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657603 Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:39:24 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657603 In reply to Joe.

As the article mentions, biga is more forgiving than a poolish per-ferment, so it is harder to over-ferment, I would allow it about 16-24 hours. I hope that helps!

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By: Keri https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657602 Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:36:52 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657602 In reply to Jim.

Room temp is ideal for a pre-ferment (Poolish), same with most breads that are proofing 🙂 I hope that helps!

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By: Jim https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657601 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 05:02:30 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657601 What is the best temperature of room to ferment your poolish?

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By: Joe https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657581 Fri, 23 Dec 2022 23:21:34 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657581 Can a biga overferment? How do I know if my biga is ready to use?

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By: Gary https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657512 Fri, 30 Sep 2022 20:30:51 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657512 In reply to Ric Whiting.

Great idea! I like avoiding the need for another scale.

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By: john Ostrowski https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657500 Sat, 03 Sep 2022 02:37:08 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657500 In reply to Carol McDonald.

Yes, you can, but every day you need to remove some of the mixes and add equal amounts of water and flour each day for the next 7 days. It will continue to improve. After that, you can refrigerate and add ingredients once a week.

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