Comments on: San Francisco Sourdough Bread https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/ The place for the ambitious home baker Sat, 12 Nov 2022 00:21:10 +0000 hourly 1 By: Peter Werner https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-657545 Sat, 12 Nov 2022 00:21:10 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-657545 In reply to Peter Werner.

Pardon me, 12.5-13% protein. I had overestimated the protein content in typical American bread flours. But that and sufficient working to build all of the potential gluten is essential. As I said, real SF sourdough has a really nice bite to it, and insufficient chewiness or sourness are the two most common flaws I’ve seen where this style isn’t done right.

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By: Peter Werner https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-657544 Sat, 12 Nov 2022 00:11:03 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-657544 Speaking as someone from San Francisco, one of the keys to getting a good SF-style sourdough is to make sure to use very strong bread flour, on the order of 14-15% protein, which is common in the US and Canada, but may not be the case in many other countries. I don’t know about the Netherlands, but when I was living in Ireland, “strong flour” was still only around 11% protein, which is why Ireland specializes in soda breads rather than yeast ones. You can tell SF sourdough is made from a high-gluten flour, because it has a really nice chewiness to it.

The other key, as you’ve noted, is to give sufficient fermentation time for the lactic acid to build up. A good San Francisco sourdough is pleasantly tart, and that’s something not even all SF bread bakeries get right.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-651128 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:29:13 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-651128 In reply to Gordon Wolffe.

Maybe our video on how to prep a banneton will help you with that:
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…-banneton/
Be generous with flour in basket and on bread when putting it in the basket, you can always brush off excess flour.

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By: Gordon Wolffe https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-651126 Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:01:22 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-651126 In reply to Gordon Wolffe.

Well the bread was hard to get out of the baton – came out quite flat as a result but tastes ok. I think my poolish was a bit wetter than average so I might try a little less water next time. Thanks for all your help
Gordon.

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By: Gordon Wolffe https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-651123 Wed, 17 Jan 2018 12:36:52 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-651123 In reply to Weekend Bakers.

Thanks for the comments and help – the flour has 12% protein. It certainly rose in the fridge overnight to twice the volume! I will let you know the result
Gordon.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-651120 Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:19:49 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-651120 In reply to Gordon Wolffe.

Hi Gordon,
Take a look at our tips on handling high hydration dough:
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…ion-dough/
This dough is supposed to be wet and sticky, and most people need at least a few turns to get used to the sticky. Next to this it is important you use the right bread flour with a protein content of around 12 to 13%, for a good gluten structure and a strong dough. If you think your dough is very slack you can try and do a few extra stretch and folds.
Good luck with it!

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By: Gordon Wolffe https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-651119 Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:45:17 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-651119 Hello there,
I am using your recipe following the instructions as exactly as possible. I have now arrived at the stretch and fold stage and the dough is very wet and sticky and very hard to handle. It is now in the fridge. I am a bit worried that tomorrow I will not be able to shape it and it will end up a flat splodge. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Gordon.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-647286 Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:18:49 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-647286 In reply to Susan.

We think the first few tips in this post can help you with that: www.weekendbakery.com/posts…eful-tips/
Plus: Try not to work too much flour in your dough from your bench, while handling it. Some people keep adding flour because the dough is sticky, this way altering the dough. You have to get used to the sticky and the handling of it.
Also see our tips for handling sticky dough: www.weekendbakery.com/posts…ion-dough/

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By: Susan https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-647270 Fri, 04 Dec 2015 16:31:01 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-647270 Hi Ed and Marieke,
Can you please advise me how to create loads of holes in your SD bread? The holes in my SD bread are not big, but there are quite a few of them. My bread seems to have a tight even crumb. I like the great big holes and plenty of them.
Please help me with this, as the main reason why I am learning to make SD bread is its texture.
Thanks,
Susan

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-645996 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:09:52 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-645996 In reply to Kevin Christie.

Hi Kevin,

Good to hear. It always takes at least a few baking rounds to get a recipe right for your conditions but it seems you are very much on the right track already.

Lots of loaves!

Marieke & Ed

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By: Kevin Christie https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-645987 Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:37:26 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-645987 In reply to Weekend Bakers.

Hi Sorry, about confusion,but, I said it appears “on the outside” to be burned, but I have now eaten the loaf and it was really good. The burnt appearance was only skin deep. I have since baked a second loaf and tried my “Kenwood Chef”, but it was much better kneading by hand. Kevin Christie

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-645960 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 07:39:54 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-645960 In reply to Kevin Christie.

Sorry Kevin,
We do not fully understand your question…you say your loaf is burned but you have not started it yet?

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By: Kevin Christie https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-645950 Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:48:38 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-645950 Hi There I tried your “Four Day” recipe, I have not started the loaf yet, but, it appears “Burnt” my domestic oven goes up to 240
degrees and I turned it to the mark just before 240, to be certain I confirmed the temperatue with an infrared thermometer
could you please advise. Kevin Christie

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By: Marieke https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-2062 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:08:39 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-2062 Hello Marcelo
The Rofco oven has 3 floors of brick, you can bake 6 breads in one go. The oven takes about 2 hours to heat up. The first hour it heats continuous and the second hour the heat spreads evenly through the bricks and the oven only heats for a minute every 5 minutes or so. It is a Belgium handmade oven made by a small family owned company for over 20 years (see www.rofco.be for more information).
The Fresh Loaf forum recently started a topic on the Rofco in reaction to our bread movie
(see www.thefreshloaf.com/node/…bread-oven).

The mixer is of German making. It’s a Häussler Alpha mixer with a 6 kilo dough capacity and removable dough hook and removable bowl.
(see www.haeussler-gmbh.de/de/pr…n.php?id=3)

Happy Holidays!

Marieke

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By: marcelo mintz https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-2061 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:56:36 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-2061 hello,great work,i would like to find here you bougth the small bread mixer and the oven you used on your youtube video also the brand name,thanks happy hollidays

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By: Marieke https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-2060 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:35:48 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-2060 Hi Jill,

Yes, it is worth it. Time = Taste!

Good luck with the starter. Don’t be discouraged if at first your starter isn’t ‘living up’ to it’s promise. Just try again and you will see it will turn out OK!

Marieke

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By: Jill https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/san-francisco-sourdough-bread/comment-page-1/#comment-2059 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:32:50 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1385#comment-2059 That sounds like a lot of time to make bread. I hope it is going to be worth it. I am just begining my first starter. Thanks for sharing.

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